Ammunition Breakdown - 9mm vs 30 Super Carry

Perfect reply. No argument or personal critique. I’ll get in line for the carbine. Might perform better than US 30 Carbine.

Why get personal? If I slight the 45 acp I am not criticizing you. You know what they say about data you can make it say what YOU want. Many have gotten away from it for their reasons. Capacity, recoil, cost, weapon sizes, and EFFECTIVENESS, I have witnessed three men shot with the 45 acp and two with 9X19. I was one with the acp. Seemed to be no difference. Some will say it depends where you are hit. EXACTLY! There is the true difference. What else is there? Capacity, recoil, size of weapons, cost and finally personal opinions.

If you're a 45 worshipper just say so. And you don't seem to compare apples to apples. Standard load 45 acp 230 gr ball ammo is 850 fps subsonic 360 ft lbs at the muzzle. 30 super carry 100 gr energy at 1250 fps is 347 ft lbs at the muzzle. That's not a joke! I think 13 ft lbs would be considered close by any sane individual. Ballistics don't lie. The intention was to be able to carry a higher capacity with SIMILAR energy performance to the 45 acp with more range. It does that. That's NO JOKE!

Regardless of what you say or think about this newcomer, I wouldn’t like being on the receiving end of this (as you say) joke!

The round was designed for somewhat of a niche role with a limited market. Made for compacts and smaller, for deep concealment or smaller back up pistols. In smaller pistols, it holding 13 rounds is seen as an advantage to only 9 or 10 chambered in 9mm. The round itself is somewhat of a compromise between 9mm and .380ACP; more rounds than 9mm, yet stronger than a 380. Some argue this is a problem we didn't know we needed a solution for, and most never asked. You're right that many full size modern pistols easily carry between 15-19 rounds of 9mm. Those same full size pistols could carry 22 rounds of 30SC. Some argue the more shots in the same sized pistol is always a good choice, regardless of the size. To each their own and we'll see if 30SC catches on at all. Personally, I feel ballistic technology nowadays is advanced enough where 9mm is sufficient for overall self defense needs, so little reason to stray from that. As a disclaimer, I am not an advocate for spending so much effort on finetuning pistolcraft outside of practice and technique. My opinion is that handguns are just means to aid in escape or to obtain a long gun, preferably a rifle.

As a novice shooter that is a perfectly acceptable question to ask! With a revolver you give up round capacity and to some degree... concealbility due to its thicker cylinder profile. However, the operation is much more simplistic. For this purpose I'd recommend a double action (DA) revolver meaning it can be fired by simply pulling the trigger (or) by first cocking it. The pull is lighter with it cocked, but in a stressful situation, the DA revolver is simply point & pull the trigger! With 5-7rounds available in most defensive calibers, you should have sufficient shots to handle MOST scenarios without the necessity for a reload. Semi-autos are much faster for reloads and typically carry from 7-17 rounds. Of course there is much more going on with the semi-auto to cause a novice shooter issues. Mags that can be difficult to load, or slides that are hard to manipulate, or safety levers that must be actuated...not to mention the possibilty for all sorts of malfunction conditions to experience. As with all things, they both require practice to master, but I would HIGHLY recommend a DA Revolver chambered in .357mag for any new shooter. This also allows for shooting of .38 special ammo which is on par with 9mm performance and is light recoiling. Or you can step it up to .357mag loads which will stop anything on 2 legs and most anything on 4 legs short of a nasty Kodiak or Moose! There are always those out there with opinions, but a real trainer must consider the abilities of the student. Different people warrant different platforms, but a revolver will serve anyone in a time of need!