Ammunition Breakdown - 9mm vs 30 Super Carry

9mm vs 30 Super Carry, 30 Supe Carry vs 9mm
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Ammunition Breakdown - 9mm vs 30 Super Carry

In our latest Gun Owners Gazette Article, we're breaking down the information you need so you can better understand the differences between 9mm vs 30 Super Carry.

The 9mm and 30 Super Carry are two different types of handgun cartridges. The 9mm cartridge is a popular choice for self-defense and is used by many law enforcement agencies around the world.

9mm ammunition is generally considered to be a relatively lightweight and low recoil cartridge, whereas 30 Super Carry Ammo is a relatively new cartridge that was developed for use in compact handguns.

30 Super Carry is based on the performance or the .45 ACP cartridge and is intended to provide similar performance in a smaller package. The 30 Super Carry is generally considered to be more powerful than the 9mm, but it may also have more recoil.

Additionally, 30 Super Carry is not as widely available as the 9mm cartridge, which can often lead to price increases and availability shortages. 

What is 9mm Ammo?

9mm ammunition, also known as 9x19mm or 9mm Luger, is a popular handgun cartridge that was developed by Georg Luger in 1902.

It is used by many military, law enforcement, and civilian shooters around the world. The cartridge was originally designed for use in the Luger pistol, but it is now used in a wide variety of firearms.

The 9mm cartridge is a rimless, straight-walled pistol cartridge that is 9mm in diameter (hence the name).

It is typically loaded with a bullet that weighs between 115 and 147 grains, and it can produce muzzle velocities ranging from 1,000 to 1,300 feet per second.

The cartridge is known for its relatively low recoil, moderate power, and high capacity (it can be loaded with up to 19 rounds in some firearms). It is a popular choice for self-defense and target shooting.

What is 30 Super Carry Ammo?

30 Super Carry Ammo is a relatively new handgun cartridge that was developed for use in compact firearms.

It is based on the performance of the .45 ACP cartridge, but it is intended to provide similar performance in a smaller package.

The 30 Super Carry cartridge is a rimless, straight-walled pistol cartridge that is approximately .30 inches in diameter. It is typically loaded with a bullet that weighs 100 grain, and it can produce muzzle velocities ranging from 800 to 1,000 feet per second.

The 30 Super Carry is intended to provide similar performance to the .45 ACP in a smaller package, with less recoil and a higher capacity.

It is not as widely available as the .45 ACP or other more common handgun cartridges, but it may be available from some specialty manufacturers.

It is not as commonly used as the 9mm cartridge, which is more widely available and popular among shooters.

Popular 30 Super Carry Types

Blazer Brass
30 Super Carry 115 Grain FJM Flat Nose

Federal Personal Defense
30 Super Carry 100 Grain HST JHP

Federal American Eagle
30 Super Carry 100 Grain FMJ

Remington UMC
30 Super Carry 100 Grain FMJ

Remington High Terminal
30 Super Carry 100 Grain JHP

Caliber Differences: 30 Super Carry vs 9mm

Given that 30 Super Carry ammunition was only made available within the past years, the amount of information compared to a legacy caliber like 9mm is limited.

However, by piecing together what we currently know, we can compare 30 Super Carry with 9mm and highlight their various differences in dimensions and specifications.

Cartridge:    30 Super Carry9mm Luger
Type:Pistol AmmunitionPistol Ammunition
Place of Origin:United StatesAustria - Hungary
Designer:Federal Premium AmmoGeorg Luger
Production Dates:2022-Present1902 - Present
Case Type:Rimless, TaperedRimless, Tapered
Case Length:21.0 mm / 0.827 In19.15mm / 0.754 In
Bullet Diameter:7.95mm / 0.313 In9.01mm / 0.355  In
Base Diameter:8.70mm / 0.345 In9.93mm / 0.392 In
Overall Length:29.7 mm / 1.169 In29.69mm / 1.169 In
Maximum Pressure:45,000 psi (SAAMI not Verified)35,000 psi (SAAMI)

Firearm Options: 9mm vs 30 Super Carry

Popular 9mm Handguns

GlockSmith & WessonSig SauerOthers
Glock 17S&W M&P Shield EZSig P226Night Hawk 1911 Bull
Glock 19S&W M&P ShieldSig P229Taurus G3c
Glock 26S&W M&P Shield PlusSig P320Springfield Hellcat
Glock 43S&W Equalizer Sig P365Walther PDP

S&W shield vs nighthawk custom bull


Popular 30 Super Carry Handguns

Smith & WessonNighthawk Custom
S&W Shield Plus 30 Super CarryNighthawk Custom 1911 30 Super Carry

nighthawk custom 30 super carry vs s&w shield plus 30 super carry

Ballastics Report: 9mm vs 30 Super Carry

9mm Ballastics Report

Caliber:9mm Luger
Manufacture:Federal Ammunition
Type:Personal Defense HST
Grain Weight:147
Muzzle Velocity:1,000
Test Barrel Length: 4 Inches

9mm Ballistics Data Chart

30 Super Carry Ballastics Report

Caliber:30 Super Carry
Manufacture:Federal Ammunition
Type:Personal Defense HST
Grain Weight:100
Muzzle Velocity:1,250
Test Barrel Length: 4 Inches

30 Super Carry Ballistics Data

.30 Super Carry Ammunition

Pros:

  • May provide similar performance to the .45 ACP in a smaller package
  • May have less recoil than larger cartridges such as the .45 ACP
  • May have a higher capacity than larger cartridges

Cons:

  • May not be as widely available as other handgun cartridges
  • May have more recoil than smaller cartridges such as the 9mm
  • May not be as widely accepted by law enforcement agencies and military forces as other handgun cartridges
  • May not be as well-established or tested as other handgun cartridges
  • May be more expensive than other handgun cartridges

Final Thoughts

After completing our review and comparison of 9mm vs 30 Super Carry, it's clear that the two ammunitions have their differences.

Whether you're the type of gun owner whose primary concern is muzzle velocity, average range, or even magazine capacity, having the knowledge to determine which caliber is right for you is half the battle.

Do you have any experience with 30 Super Carry? If so, post a comment down below. We'd love to hear your thoughts on how it compares to the more traditional, well-known 9mm Luger.


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Greg
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Looking at just the data , from Federal supplied ammo . Knock down power is what counts & there doesn't seem to me , to be enough difference to warrant running out buying & feeding a .30 super carry , over my 9mm's . I reload & dies , brass , bullets etc . would be an added cost with no real benefit in ft lbs of energy on target . After 25 yards the 9mm is ahead in that category . We haven't really looked at ALL the possibilities though . Cartridge pressures for a handgun or how about the 30 super carry carbines coming out ? IF the 30 super carry was a .308 I would be more inclined to get on board , just to experiment with carbine loads . NO ! It's .313 dia ? BAD IDEA , just my opinion , limits available bullet weights & types ! I'm going to wait & SEE MUCH more field data on this new comer before I run out & buy something . I will most LIKELY go with a carbine , rather than a handgun , IF or WHEN I do make the jump ! As for NOW I DO NOT see one in my future , thank you ! Whatever you do ENJOY !
Edgar Taylor
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Perfect reply. No argument or personal critique. I’ll get in line for the carbine. Might perform better than US 30 Carbine.
David Burdsal
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You said: "Pros: May provide similar performance to the .45 ACP in a smaller package" This round doesn't even come CLOSE to the energy of a .45ACP!!! The fact that you would say that, knowing that it doesn't makes me think you either print what you're told or you don't want to make the people paying for ad space upset. Compare muzzle energy of a .45ACP to the 30 Super Carry. No contest! Federal should have kept working on this round until they got it closer to a .45 because where it currently is now is a joke.
Edgar Taylor
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Why get personal? If I slight the 45 acp I am not criticizing you. You know what they say about data you can make it say what YOU want. Many have gotten away from it for their reasons. Capacity, recoil, cost, weapon sizes, and EFFECTIVENESS, I have witnessed three men shot with the 45 acp and two with 9X19. I was one with the acp. Seemed to be no difference. Some will say it depends where you are hit. EXACTLY! There is the true difference. What else is there? Capacity, recoil, size of weapons, cost and finally personal opinions.
Richard Barnett
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If you're a 45 worshipper just say so. And you don't seem to compare apples to apples. Standard load 45 acp 230 gr ball ammo is 850 fps subsonic 360 ft lbs at the muzzle. 30 super carry 100 gr energy at 1250 fps is 347 ft lbs at the muzzle. That's not a joke! I think 13 ft lbs would be considered close by any sane individual. Ballistics don't lie. The intention was to be able to carry a higher capacity with SIMILAR energy performance to the 45 acp with more range. It does that. That's NO JOKE!
Joe L Mireles
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Regardless of what you say or think about this newcomer, I wouldn’t like being on the receiving end of this (as you say) joke!
William J Johnson
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Wondering, Federal decides to push a new product && to make their product appear to have greater advantages, they chose to Not make a 9mm load in a 115gr. HST !! Also, they advertise 3 extra rounds while comparing a 10 rd. magazine to a 13 rd. magazine, knowing that most standard 9mm handguns have 15 - 17 rd. magazines. "FEDERAL", question, 1) would creating the popular 115gr. in a HST @ 1200+ fps take away ALL Your Hype on the 30 Super && 2) do You really think the American Shooter would really care about 3 extra rds. if His / Her current EDC was packing 15 rds.
AT
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The round was designed for somewhat of a niche role with a limited market. Made for compacts and smaller, for deep concealment or smaller back up pistols. In smaller pistols, it holding 13 rounds is seen as an advantage to only 9 or 10 chambered in 9mm. The round itself is somewhat of a compromise between 9mm and .380ACP; more rounds than 9mm, yet stronger than a 380. Some argue this is a problem we didn't know we needed a solution for, and most never asked. You're right that many full size modern pistols easily carry between 15-19 rounds of 9mm. Those same full size pistols could carry 22 rounds of 30SC. Some argue the more shots in the same sized pistol is always a good choice, regardless of the size. To each their own and we'll see if 30SC catches on at all. Personally, I feel ballistic technology nowadays is advanced enough where 9mm is sufficient for overall self defense needs, so little reason to stray from that. As a disclaimer, I am not an advocate for spending so much effort on finetuning pistolcraft outside of practice and technique. My opinion is that handguns are just means to aid in escape or to obtain a long gun, preferably a rifle.
Don
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We have 3 of the super carry in the family. My wife loves her over her 9. I use mine when carrying a 45 is NOT feasible in uniform i still love my slab side. I do have several 9s I can use but I prefer the 30. I have had zero problems find ammo for it, even I didn't we have our own reload shop. As my family has taught me. It's not aways the caliber that saves the day it is the skill and comfort level of the person using the equipment. Recoil wise I have not noticed a major difference between the 9 and the 30.
Brad
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What a useless review. So many fallacies, it was either generated by a bot or by somebody who doesn't know anything about guns.
Amir Fühl
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I'm going to get verbally pummeled here for asking the upcoming question, and I guess I deserve it, because it's out of place. First, I've never owned a pistol. I've fired a rifle a few times, but not for years, and I don't imagine that firing a rifle vs. pistol has a lot in common. That said, is there ANY advantage to using the classic six-shooter revolver over a 9mm? If I were truly in a life-or-death situation, and I wasn't able to retreat**, is one more reliable than the other? I could Google this, but I can't help wonder if the info on either side of the discussion is influenced by commercial interests. ** I live in an area where there is a 'duty to retreat', which may have cost lives on that basis alone. I don't want my final thought to be "I guess it was a real threat. If only I had defended myself"
DS
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As a novice shooter that is a perfectly acceptable question to ask! With a revolver you give up round capacity and to some degree... concealbility due to its thicker cylinder profile. However, the operation is much more simplistic. For this purpose I'd recommend a double action (DA) revolver meaning it can be fired by simply pulling the trigger (or) by first cocking it. The pull is lighter with it cocked, but in a stressful situation, the DA revolver is simply point & pull the trigger! With 5-7rounds available in most defensive calibers, you should have sufficient shots to handle MOST scenarios without the necessity for a reload. Semi-autos are much faster for reloads and typically carry from 7-17 rounds. Of course there is much more going on with the semi-auto to cause a novice shooter issues. Mags that can be difficult to load, or slides that are hard to manipulate, or safety levers that must be actuated...not to mention the possibilty for all sorts of malfunction conditions to experience. As with all things, they both require practice to master, but I would HIGHLY recommend a DA Revolver chambered in .357mag for any new shooter. This also allows for shooting of .38 special ammo which is on par with 9mm performance and is light recoiling. Or you can step it up to .357mag loads which will stop anything on 2 legs and most anything on 4 legs short of a nasty Kodiak or Moose! There are always those out there with opinions, but a real trainer must consider the abilities of the student. Different people warrant different platforms, but a revolver will serve anyone in a time of need!
CY
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Completely agree, I own both revolvers and semiautomatics, but i prefer, and carry, revolvers even if they are somewhat bulkier. As a friend once said a revolver doesn’t jam, fail to feed or fail to eject it just “goes bang every time”.
Matt
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I would have to disagree. Even a .38 Special in a Revolver Will have more recoil than your average 9mm. Most quality semi-autos won’t jam, that is a moot point. I have never given a new shooter a semi-auto and had it jam, perhaps because I don’t have cheap firearms, but also because the design and mfg of them has come a long way. And if you think it is easier for a new person to reload a revolver than shove a new mag in a semi-auto you haven’t tried reloading a revolver with speed under stress. Semi-autos have better ergonomics which makes them easier to hold, and their lighter and slimmer profile means they are more likely to actually be carried. I’m not say I’mg revolvers are bad, but in my experience, it’s just as easy for a new shooter to pickup the function of a semi-auto as a revolver. The biggest thing…don’t try to buy a tiny micro pistol when you have never shot a pistol before in your life. I tiny semi-auto or snub-nose revolver will be very difficult for a new shooter to handle and shoot well. Practice is the only thing that will save your life! Buying a gun and never practicing will make you marginally more prepared for a threat, but you are still likely to die if the threat is also armed.